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Kelly C.

I was drawn to the instructors and program because it seemed like it was about more than just women but I had no idea how much more, and greatly underestimated that. When I came into the program, I had no concept or expectation of learning and doing this stuff without alcohol, or solving and working on deep personal issues that affect game as well as other aspects of life, or being provided a sustainable path forward, different from before. This was an incredible way to work on positive changes to your personality, go out, have fun and do it without alcohol.

FULL REVIEW

This program gives way more than you would ever guess, and way more than what you think you’re going there for. This program can change your life as well as your game, while providing a sustainable path forward, and a specific timeline for progress.

It gave me a sustainable path forward, made going out fun again, and allowed me to solve problems I didn’t even think were related to game. For me, the key is sustainability. In the past, I’ve had problems getting myself to consistently practice other methods of game, and mainly that was because it often felt like a drag or work I didn’t want to do. I was never good about getting myself to go do it consistently over a long period of time. This system has made going out fun again, and consequently, more sustainable. And it was explained why burn out was typical among the majority of people, which was an important revelation for me. For me, one big problem was that I could not figure out why I couldn’t get myself to consistently stay on other methods, and I found out why on the first day of this program.

More importantly, the program addresses foundational inner issues deeply, things that on their surface don’t seem to be about game or women, but in reality ultimately affect your game and relationships significantly.

Most surprising for me is that I did it without alcohol, as did many other people on the program. I usually drink when I go out but on this program I didn’t drink the whole time, and I had a lot of fun. I had no concept that that would happen before going.

Outer game was covered on the first few days of the program, while introducing many of the inner game concepts. Roughly the second half of the program focused on deeper, inner game issues and masculinity. We basically went out for the first few nights, worked on foundational, inner game during the week and then went back out at the end of the week, while continuing the inner game work during the day.

For the outer game, we were taught a natural free flowing conversational model and about fun/flirty conversation, physical communication, sexual conversation, and deep conversation. Interestingly, it was pointed out to us that none of us had trouble talking to each other or running out of things to say during one break, so that when talking to a girl and running out of things to say, it was only a change in our own mindset that made that happen. That was a big revelation for me. It also was effective for me on the first night when I was talking to a girl who was good looking, and it was going well. At one point, when I was about to run out of things to say, I thought about the mindset that was taught earlier and the conversation started flowing out of me again.

The first night out was a big surprise for me. I had already liked the new direction they taught during the day, but implementing it was fun and successful, and without alcohol. I met tons of women on the first night, without alcohol and had fun doing it, and it went great. I opened tons of women, and approaching was always difficult for me in the past. The concepts they taught during the day made opening and approaching easier. The change was primarily on mindsets, and the change was powerful. Tanner, one of the Rockstars, was also a big help too on the first night, and got me to think more aggressively, pointing out that I should try to pull a girl I was with to the bathroom to hook up there.

The inner game section was mind blowing. On top of general lessons about the mind, how it can work against you, and how to defeat that, it was an incredibly really deep dive into some of your deepest issues. Andrew’s process for handling them is pretty astounding to see, as well as seeing the immediate results in other people as well as yourself. It put me on a path towards solving foundational issues I’ve had for years, with solutions I would not likely have moved towards in my lifetime without this program.

To this end, Andrew’s perception into people is uncanny – it looks like a magic trick. You would think the people in the room have to be actors. That perception alone is unique and worth the price of admission. It’s a rare opportunity to have someone be able to help improve you as a person, by being able to diagnose foundational issues, ones that affect your life and your game.

In the inner game portion, we did activities that were geared toward strengthening being in the right mindset for going out and for life. Some of these activities in themselves might seem to be meaningless or ineffectual if they were simply mentioned in a vacuum without context, but after being instructed on the mindset being achieved during them, they were incredibly helpful. They were highly effective for reaching the mindsets being taught, mindsets that are helpful being out and living life.

The program also taught the importance of masculinity and the problems of lack of masculinity, some of which seem obvious only after you’ve heard about it and think about it. The detailed and in depth discussions on masculinity are something I haven’t heard anywhere else up until this point.

After going through the week of inner game material, we went back out. The difference in people, their results, and the amount of fun people had, was immediately noticeable. Once again, I had a great time sober and met a lot of women. I approached girls that I wouldn’t have in the past and had it go well. When I would slide back into a bad mindset, I knew the process for getting back on track.

The Rockstars (Tanner, Blake, Sasha, Nawaz) who help out are walking proof Andrew and Alex’s teachings work. They’re helpful on the program and teach parts of the program, but they allow you to see what’s possible if you follow through. Besides being fun to hang out with, their presence is consistent and undeniable verification of the effectiveness of the program, and the program has been evolving significantly since they went through it. You cannot meet a Rockstar and think this process doesn’t work.

I came out out of the program feeling like I could see a light at the end of the tunnel. My first night out after I got back from the program, I had a great time going out without alcohol. I went out with people who had a table at a club and not only did I not drink, I didn’t feel like drinking. This night felt like a revelation to me because it was the first time I’d done it without the rest of the guys from the program and instructors around. I felt like if I can keep doing it, I could sustainably have progress that had been elusive in the past.

The review and integration at the end was incredibly helpful and felt like a roadmap to life. Unexpectedly, there was health (diet) component at the end that has already transformed my body and something I was looking for. It was a nice surprise to get something I was about to look for elsewhere.

I was drawn to the instructors and program because it seemed like it was about more than just women but I had no idea how much more, and greatly underestimated that. When I came into the program, I had no concept or expectation of learning and doing this stuff without alcohol, or solving and working on deep personal issues that affect game as well as other aspects of life, or being provided a sustainable path forward, different from before. This was an incredible way to work on positive changes to your personality, go out, have fun and do it without alcohol.

One way to know that the program was worth the money, was that a money back guarantee was offered (to get your money back at the end of the program if you weren’t satisfied), and no one even thought about getting their money back at the end. The idea would’ve been preposterous after the experience everyone had. (Also, the program will likely save you more in money in alcohol over time than the cost of the program.)

Thanks again to everyone on the program.

Highly recommended. You should sign up before these guys figure out they could be doing something else.